>> well, they use the tactics of force, use the tactics of being the only institution in town. the thing here is that there are tactics we can be using. those of us who believe in a world where people are coming together to build understanding and cooperation, we can build schools, we can build health clinics, we can build religious education programs that taught me what my parents and educators taught me, which is islam a learning of peace. >> but the taliban has the only school in that particular area, do these children have much of a choice? and what kind of impact does it have on a child when they're essentially sent to strangers and told you're going to go and do this, but you're going to do this in the name of religion? >> betty, the challenge of the 21st century is going to be giving these children a choice. they would want to be doctors, they would want to be scientists, they would want to be poets, they would want to believe in islam as a message of peace and cooperation. we cannot forfeit these children to the talibans of the world. that's exactly the point. we need t